Individual Notes
Note for: Mary Wheatley Hall, ABT 1809 - BET SEP AND DEC 1893
Index
Individual Note: Mary is most likely Mary Ann Hall born of Thomas Hall and Sarah Brookes in Buxted, about 15km south east of East Grinstead. However that is not certain, in the 1871 and 1881 Census she claims to be born in East Grinstead. There is a marriage by a Richard Norman to a Mary Finch, but East Grinstead christening records do not match age at all.
Update 2008-10-30: Hmm, from an Australian tree it seems that Mary Ann Hall married in Australia and died there ... this makes sense as her father was transported there in 1815 and it seems the whole family went:
Mary Ann- born c.1810 Buxted, died 29-8-1879 Singleton, N.S.W. married Robert Tennant 29-8-1825 Richmond, N.S.W. de facto James Smith.
Feb 2010 - I've now detached her from the Thomas Hall b1783/Sarah Brookes family. Pity, nice story.
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Source - LDS IGI Individual Record:
RICHARD NORMAN
Male
Marriages:
Spouse: MARY WHEATLY HALL
Marriage: 27 JUL 1835 Buxted, Sussex, England
Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record
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Note: there is also this record, but her age does not fit and "Wheatley" is used in her death record:
RICHARD NORMAN
Male
Marriages:
Spouse: MARY FINCH
Marriage: 14 FEB 1831 East Grinstead, Sussex, England
All options for Sussex:
RICHARD NORMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 14 FEB 1831 East Grinstead, Sussex, England
RICHARD NORMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 05 APR 1833 All Saints, Lewes, Sussex, England
RICHARD NORMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 27 JUL 1835 Buxted, Sussex, England
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Source - IGI Individual Record:
Mary Ann Hall
Female
Event(s):
Birth: 1810 Buxted, Sussex, England
Christening:
Parents:
Father: Thomas Hall
Mother: Sarah Brookes
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MARIA HALL
Female
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 08 APR 1810 Hartfield, Sussex, England
Parents:
Father: JOHN HALL Family
Mother: ANNE
Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
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No clear East Grinstead christening record:
1. MARY FINCH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 03 FEB 1775 East Grinstead, Sussex, England
2. MARY FINCH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 13 OCT 1805 East Grinstead, Sussex, England
3. MARY FINCH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 26 MAY 1816 East Grinstead, Sussex, England
4. MARY FINCH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 23 MAY 1817 East Grinstead, Sussex, England
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If the surname is wrong but POB right then she might be one of these:
8. MARY ELLIOTT - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 29 DEC 1808 East Grinstead, Sussex, England
16. MARY TESTER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 10 APR 1808 East Grinstead, Sussex, England
17. MARY WICKENS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 14 FEB 1809 East Grinstead, Sussex, England
24. MARY HILL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 20 AUG 1809 East Grinstead, Sussex, England
30. MARY CHARLWOOD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 15 OCT 1809 East Grinstead, Sussex, England
36. MARY BROOKER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 02 FEB 1809 East Grinstead, Sussex, England
49. MARY ANNE WATERS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 28 AUG 1808 East Grinstead, Sussex, England
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or if a late baptism even:
37. MARY BROOKER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 16 SEP 1810 East Grinstead, Sussex, England
38. MARY ANNE BUCKWELL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 17 AUG 1810 East Grinstead, Sussex, England
32. MARY TRICE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 23 SEP 1810 East Grinstead, Sussex, England
34. MARY ANNE STRIPP - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 13 MAY 1810 East Grinstead, Sussex, England
29. MARY ANN BATCHELOR - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 15 SEP 1811 East Grinstead, Sussex, England
7. MARIA AVERY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 08 JUL 1810 East Grinstead, Sussex, England
9. MARY ISARD - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 13 JUL 1810 East Grinstead, Sussex, England
11. MARY ANNE CAREY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 27 MAY 1810 East Grinstead, Sussex, England
12. MARY FOWLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 25 FEB 1810 East Grinstead, Sussex, England
13. MARY COMBER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Adult Christening: 16 DEC 1810 East Grinstead, Sussex, England
14. MARY ANNE COOMBER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 24 MAR 1811 East Grinstead, Sussex, England
25. MARY EDWARDS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 29 APR 1810 East Grinstead, Sussex, England
26. MARY CHAPMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 25 DEC 1811 East Grinstead, Sussex, England
19. MARY MITCHELL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 24 FEB 1811 East Grinstead, Sussex, England
20. MARY SMITH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 20 OCT 1811 East Grinstead, Sussex, England
22. MARY ANN GEER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 17 JUL 1811 East Grinstead, Sussex, England
23. MARY ANN GEER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 28 JUL 1811 East Grinstead, Sussex, England
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3. Mary Ann Hall - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 1810 Buxted, Sussex, England
4. MARIA HALL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 08 APR 1810 Hartfield, Sussex, England
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Source - 1851 England Census:
NameEstimated Birth YearBirthplaceRelationshipCivil ParishCounty/Island
Richard Normanabt 1806 Hartfield, Sussex, EnglandHead East Grinstead SussexCarpenter & Joiner employing one man & one app
Mary Normanabt 1808 East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandWife East Grinstead Sussex
Charles Normanabt 1838 East GrinsteadSon East Grinstead Sussex
Eliza Normanabt 1839 East GrinsteadDaughter East Grinstead Sussex
George Normanabt 1842 East GrinsteadSon East Grinstead Sussex
Living: London Road, East Grinstead, Sussex, UK
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Source - 1861 England Census;
NameEstimated Birth YearBirthplaceRelationshipCivil ParishCounty/Island
Richard Normanabt 1806 Hartfield, Sussex, EnglandHead East Grinstead SussexMaster Carpenter employing 9 men and 1 boy
Mary Normanabt 1809 East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandWife East Grinstead Sussex
Charles Normanabt 1838 East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandSon East Grinstead Sussex Carpenter's son
Eliza Normanabt 1840 East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandDaughter East Grinstead Sussex
George Normanabt 1842 East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandSon East Grinstead Sussex
Living: London Road, East Grinstead, Sussex, UK
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Source - 1871 England Census:
NameAge in 1871BirthplaceRelationshipCivil ParishCounty/Island
Richard Norman65 Hartfield, Sussex, EnglandHead East Grinstead SussexBuilder
Mary Norman62 East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandWife East Grinstead Sussex
Eliza C Norman7 East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandGranddaughter East Grinstead Sussex
Living: London Road, East Grinstead (next door to "Elm Cottages"; 3 doors from "Rock Gardens" the other way)
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Source - 1881 England Census:
Name RelationMarital StatusGenderAgeBirthplaceOccupationDisability
Mary NORMAN Head W Female 70 East Grinstead, Sussex, England Of Independant Means
Eliza NORMAN Grand Daur U Female 17 East Grinstead, Sussex, England Of Independant Means
Dwelling London Road
Census PlaceEast Grinstead, Sussex, England
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Source - FreeBMD Deaths:
Deaths Mar 1890
Norman Mary Wheatley 81 E. Grinstead 2b101
Individual Notes
Note for: George Norman, ABT 1842 - BET MAR 1871 AND APR 1881
Index
Occupation: Date: 1866
Place: Stationmaster at Seaford Station, Sussex
Occupation: Date: 1871
Place: Timekeeper to Mason
Residence: Date: 1871
Place: 1, Nanlefs? Road, Lambeth St Mary, Surrey, UK
Individual Note: According to christening records matching his parents names he was christened 06 FEB 1842 in East Grinstead, Sussex so was probably born early 1842.
He appears in the 1861 Census living in East Grinstead with his parents and not yet working.
By the 1881 Census, his wife Emily is shown as a widow.
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Source - LDS International Genealogical Index
GEORGE NORMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 06 FEB 1842 East Grinstead, Sussex, England
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Source - 1861 England Census
NameEstimated Birth YearBirthplaceRelationshipCivil ParishCounty/Island
Richard Normanabt 1806 Hartfield, Sussex, EnglandHead East Grinstead SussexMaster Carpenter employing 9 men and 1 boy
Mary Normanabt 1809 East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandWife East Grinstead Sussex
Charles Normanabt 1838 East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandSon East Grinstead Sussex Carpenter's son
Eliza Normanabt 1840 East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandDaughter East Grinstead Sussex
George Normanabt 1842 East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandSon East Grinstead Sussex
Living: London Road, East Grinstead, Sussex, UK
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Source - 1871 England Census
NameEstimated Birth YearBirthplaceRelationshipCivil Parish or TownshipCounty/Island
George Gormanabt 1841 East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandHead Lambeth St Mary SurreyTimekeeper to Mason
Emily Gormanabt 1838 Dorking, Surrey, EnglandWife Lambeth St Mary Surrey
Edith Gormanabt 1866 Seaford, Sussex, EnglandDaughter Lambeth St Mary Surrey
Rose Gormanabt 1869 Seaford, Sussex, EnglandDaughter Lambeth St Mary Surrey
Living: 1, Nanlefs? Road, Lambeth St Mary, Surrey, UK
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Source - FreeBMD Deaths
Possible death matches:
Deaths Mar 1874
NORMAN George 33 Clifton 6a52
Deaths Dec 1874
Norman George 32 Wakefield 9c40
Deaths Sep 1879
Norman George 37 Hastings 2b17<-- A likely one??
Deaths Dec 1880
Norman George 36 Lambeth 1d298<-- likely place but 2 years out
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Source - 1881 England Census
Name RelationMarital StatusGenderAgeBirthplaceOccupationDisability
Emily A. NORMAN Head W Female 44 Dorking, Surrey, England Derives Income From Interest On Money
Edith E. NORMAN Daur Female 14 Seaford, Sussex, England Pupil Teacher
Rose E. NORMAN Daur Female 12 Seaford, Sussex, England Scholar
Ada E. NORMAN Daur Female 9 Beiston, Surrey, England Scholar
Dwelling 34 College Avenue
Census PlaceLondon, Middlesex, England
Note also:
Name RelationMarital StatusGenderAgeBirthplaceOccupationDisability
George NORMAN Head M Male 39 Southwick, Sussex, England Gas Fitter
Susan NORMAN Wife M Female 36 St Georges E, Middlesex, England
George NORMAN Son U Male 11 Tower Ham, Middlesex, England
Frank NORMAN Son U Male 9 Tower Ham, Middlesex, England
Albert NORMAN Son U Male 20 m Kensington, Middlesex, England
Dwelling 10 Lockton Street
Census PlaceLondon, Middlesex, England
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Source - Genes Reunited forum email, Mar 2005
From "David"
1842. But his wife was Emily Ann Bodfield, not Susan. Check in the 1881 census. I'm descended from his second daughter Edith Emily. I have the certificates.
Regards
David
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My great grandmother was Edith Emily Norman.
Her birth certificate shows she was born 1866 to George Norman, stationmaster at Seaford Station, Sussex, and Emily Ann Norman, formerly Bodfiel
The 1881 census has her as living at 34 College Rd., Hackney with her mother, Emily A. Norman Widow, born Dorking Surrey 44 years earlier and her 2 younger sisters.
So clealry my GN died pre 1881. I do have his birth certificate, which shows he was born 1842 to Richard Norman, bricklayer and Mary Norman formerly Hall, of East Grinstead. Edith Emily Norman is listed in the IGI.
David
Individual Notes
Note for: Thomas Hall, ABT 1783 - 19 MAY 1821
Index
Emigration: Date: 1815
Place: Transported to Australia
Emigration: Date: 30 JAN 1816
Place: Arrived in Port Jackson (Sydney Harbour), Australia
Event: Type: Convicted
Date: 20 MAR 1815
Place: Sussex Assizes. Sentenced to death, commuted to transportation
Individual Note: Note: This Thomas Hall is not part of my family and is left here for reference only, I had erroneously ascribed him as the father of Mary Wheatly Hall who marries into the Norman family. - Mike Collinson, March 2010.
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Source - Personal email:
At 12:15 PM 20/05/2010, Barry Sylvester wrote:
Hi Mike ??. I have just come across your site and was wondering if it is still active. I guess if I hear from you I know whether or not it is.
Thomas hall was my ggg. Grandfather, his daughter Harriet was my ggr. Grandmother. I can tell you just about all there is to know [well a fair amount anyway]on the Hall family descendants in Australia.
If you are will to exchange information I am certainly willing to help you where I can. I notice you have Mary Ann marrying a Norman is that right??. Mary Ann Robert Tennant [convict] and then lived with a man by the name of Smith.
None of Thomas and Sarah children were married prior to coming to Australia. Sarah arrived on the Mary Ann in Jan 1816. Thomas and his brother William arrived on the Ocean in 1816. I know very little of what happened to William but a women in Qld Australia, claims to be descended from him.
When Thomas drowned in May 1821, [not the 19th as every has] Sarah remarried in 1822 and had 2/3 more children.
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Source - LDS member records:
(Pamela Warburton via Genes Reunited points out that if Thomas Hall is born c1794, then he is too young to get married. Another source says 1783, which fits)
This is the only record that comes up for a Thomas Hall / Sarah Brookes marriage:
Family Group Record
Husband
THOMAS HALL
Birth:
Christening: 21 MAR 1794 Maresfield, Sussex, England
Marriage:
Death: 19 MAY 1821 , , Australia
Burial:
Wife
SARAH BROOKS
Birth:
Christening:
Marriage:
Death:
Burial:
Children
1. MARY HALL
Female
Birth: About 1810 , , England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:
2. SOPHIA HALL
Female
Birth: 04 APR 1813 , , England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:
3. HARRIET HALL
Female
Birth: 1815 , , At Sea
Christening:
Death: 05 JUN 1880
Burial:
4. JOHN HALL
Male
Birth: 23 MAR 1819 Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Christening: St Phillips, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Death:
Burial:
5. MARTHA HALL
Female
Birth: 19 JUL 1821 Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Christening: St Phillips, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Death:
Burial:
Messages:
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter
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Source - LDS IGI Individual Record:
SOPHIA HALL
Female
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 04 APR 1813 Buxted, Sussex, England
Parents:
Father: THOMAS HALL
Mother: SARAH
Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record
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Source - LDS IGI Individual Record
THOMAS HALL
Male
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 21 MAR 1784 Maresfield, Sussex, England
Death: 12 MAY 1821
Burial:
Parents:
Father: JOHN HALL
Mother: HANNAH DIPLOCK
Messages:
Family group record submitted by a member of the LDS Church
Source Information:
Batch Number: 0960776
Sheet: 00
Source Call No.: 1514739
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Source IGI Individual Record
JOHN HALL
Male
Event(s):
Birth: 17 SEP 1756 Maresfield, Sussex, England
Christening:
Death: 23 OCT 1833
Burial:
Parents:
Father: ROBERT HAL
Mother: ALICE
Messages:
Family group record submitted by a member of the LDS Church.
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Source - IGI Individual Record
Note: Part of same batch of records, not sure if or what the relationship is.
CHARLES CHESSELL
Male
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 16 OCT 1816 Angmering, Sussex, England
Death: 08 MAY 1905
Burial:
Parents:
Father: WILLIAM CHESSELL
Mother: MARY ALLEN
Messages:
Family group record submitted by a member of the LDS Church.
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Source - Pam Warburton, Genes reunited, Feb 2010:
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According to a decendant of one of Janes brothers, Martha Hall's father was a Thomas Hall who was transported to NSW for horse stealing. I haven't tried checking the convict records etc for Thomas Hall's details but it would be a good exercise. A good start would be checking shipping records for c1815 and see what I can find.
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Source - Gary Standen, http://members.iinet.net.au/~gstanden/hall.html
The Trial of William & Thomas Hall
Sussex Assizes 1815.
At the general session of the delivery of the gaol of our Lord the King of the County of Sussex holden at Horsham in the said county on Monday the 20th. day of March in the 55th. year of the reign of our Sovereign Lord George the Third by the grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, King, Defender of the Faith before Sir Alan Chamber, Knight, one of the Justices of our said Lord the King of his court of common please Sir George Wood, Knight, one of the Barons of our said Lord the King of his court of exchequer and others their fellow Justices of our said Lord the King deliver the said gaol of the prisoners therein being
Thomas Hall } Attainted of stealing a gelding price twenty pounds
William Hall } of James Knight
William Randall }
Reprieved transported for life.
The jurors for our Lord the King upon their Oath present that Thomas Hall late of the Parish of Maresfield puts himself in judgement on another inditement in the County of Sussex,Labourer, William Hall, late of the same, labourer and William Randall, late of the same, labourer on the fifteenth day of February in the fiftyfith reign of our sovereign Lord George the Third. by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, King, Defender of the Faith, with force and with arms at the Parish aforesaid in the County of the aforesaid, one cart of the value of Ten Pounds and one set of cart harness of the value of Five Pounds of the goods and chattels of William Austen, did steal and carry away, against the Peace of our said Lord the King his crown and dignity.
Grand Larceny.
Thomas Hall only.
Puts himself. Jury says Guilty. No Goods.
To be hanged by the neck until be dead.
One gelding of the price of Twenty Pounds of the Goods and Chattels of James Knight, then and then being found, did take and lead.
Horse Stealing.
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Source - Gary Standen, http://members.iinet.net.au/~gstanden/hall.html
The Sussex Advertiser, 27th. March 1815.
In the Criminal Court, twenty prisoners were tried, ten of whom were capitally convicted, and received Sentence of Death, viz. -
John Row, aged 60, for stealing a gelding, the property of Mr. Gibbs, of Laughton, - James Newman, 31, for stealing a bay gelding, the property of Mr. Leggatt, of Westhampnet. - Thomas Simmonds, 25, for stealing a brown gelding, the property of Mr. Noakes, of Herstmonceux. - Thomas Hall, 32, William Hall, 33, and William Randall, 52, for stealing a horse, the property of Mr. Knight, of Maresfield, and a cart, the property of Mr. Avis, of Forest Row. - William Matthews, 37, (removed from Newgate) for obtaining a horse, under false pretences, of James Carter. - Jane Rogers, 36, for feloniously stealing divers articles in the shop of Mr. Wickens, of Rotherfield. - John Booth, alias Brown, 54, for a burglary in the house of Robert Taylor, of Buxted. - And, Thomas Elliott, for stealing a sheep, the property of Edward Fielder.
They were all reprieved before the Judges left the Town.
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Source - Gary Standen, http://members.iinet.net.au/~gstanden/hall.html
My Hall Family.
John Hall, born 17-9-1756 in Maresfield, Sussex, married 1-2-1780 in Maresfield to Hannah Diplock, born 1757. Hannah died 25-3-1832 in Maresfield and John was buried 23-10-1833 also in Maresfield.
Issue:-
1.
William - born 1781 Maresfield, died 14-11-1849 Broke, N.S.W. married Sarah
2.
Thomas - born 1783 Maresfield, died May 1821 Middle Harbour, married Sarah Brookes 3-2-1805 Plumstead, Kent.
3.
Sarah - born 1785 Buxted.
4.
James - born 1787 Buxted, died 24-7-1816.
5.
Betty - born 1789 Buxted.
6.
Henry - born 1790 Buxted.
7.
Edward - born 1792 Buxted.
8.
Nanny - born 1794 Buxted.
9.
Isaac - born 1796 Buxted.
10.
Mark - born 1798 Buxted, died 25-7-1798.
William and Thomas Hall, with William Randall, were sentenced to death at the Sussex Assizes on 20-3-1815 for stealing a horse (valued at twenty pounds) and a cart. The sentences must have been commuted because William and Thomas were transported for life arriving in Port Jackson on 30-1-1816 aboard the “Ocean”. Their wives and Thomas’ three daughters arrived free on the 19-1-1816 aboard the “Mary Anne”. I know nothing more of William until his death 14-11-1849 at Broke and his burial two days later in an unmarked grave at Fordwich Cemetery.
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Thomas Hall had married at Plumstead, Kent on 3-2-1805 to Sarah Brookes, born in 1787 at Woolwich, Kent.
Issue:-
1.
Mary Ann- born c.1810 Buxted, died 29-8-1879 Singleton, N.S.W. married Robert Tennant 29-8-1825 Richmond, N.S.W. de facto James Smith.
2.
Sophia - born c.1812 Buxted, died 29-8-1902 Yango Creek, married John White 1-4-1831 Black Creek, N.S.W.
3.
Harriett born c.1816 at sea, died 5-6-1880 Wollombi, N.S.W. married John Sylvester 16-7-1832 Richmond, de facto Robert Biggs.
4.
Susannah - born 15-5-1817 Sydney, married John Jackson 23-2-1833 Glendon, N.S.W.
5.
John - born 24-8-1819 Sydney, died 14-12-1891 Singleton, married Sarah Farthing 25-5-1840 Wollombi, married Margaret McLeod 18-7-1855 Black Creek.
6.
Martha - born 19-7-1821 Sydney, died c.1902 Narrabri, N.S.W. married Peter Barr c.1843
Thomas Hall presumably drowned in May 1821 as explained in the article in the Sydney Gazette of 19-5-1821.
"We are sorry to have to report a calamity which involves circumstances of a truly distressing nature. A man, named Thomas Hall, who has been for some time past in the habit of supporting his family by cutting wood and burning lime in the various coves, and has lately been at work in Middle Harbour with three other men, on Friday week dispatched one of the men home, with directions to return to him on the Monday following in the event of his not (by that period) reaching Sydney with the boat. Not returning as expected, the man set out through the woods, and after diligent search and enquiry, saw not the least appearance of the boat. After a lapse of a day or two another boat was dispatched in quest of the absentees. Upon arriving at the place from whence the boat is supposed to have taken her load, there was every appearance of a quantity of lime having been removed; but no traces of the poor men could be ascertained. One oar of the boat, however, has been picked up, with a hat, supposed to have been worn by one of the men. From these circumstances, therefore, there can be no hesitation in pronouncing upon the destiny of three unfortunate fellow-creatures, and declaring that they have met with a watery grave. Providentially, two of the men were without families; but Hall has left a pregnant wife, and five young children, to deplore the loss of a good husband, a kind father and a sober and industrious member of society. We are happy to bear testimony that the Benevolent Society afforded the usual prompt assistance on this melancholy occasion; but, as a burden of such magnitude would be too much for the Society to bear for a continuance, it is desirable that some other means should be devised to enable the widow (a deserving woman) to maintain her little family in honesty. The public has never yet been solicited in vain; and we are pretty well assured, that such a doleful relation as this will lead to increase that susceptibility which is ready to manifest itself at almost every call. A poor woman, far advanced in pregnancy, with five orphans, is now constrained to crave relief from a benevolent Public. With this in view, we are authorised to state, that the Rev. Mr. Cowper, and the Rev. Mr. Hill, will be ready to afford any further information that may be required; and that these worthy Gentlemen also will rejoice much in receiving any pecuniary relief that may be afforded in behalf of such charitable purposes. It is rather remarkable that various trials which this poor family have had to contend with: This is the interesting case stated in the last report of the Benevolent Society:- he had but very few weeks become possessed of the boat as his own property; when, by a severe fall, he fractured his collar-bone, which for a considerable time, prevented his daily labour; and now, by this calamity, all the burden of five little children is suddenly cast upon his widow, who, in a few weeks, as already stated, will have to mourn over a sixth."
Apparently the paper received donations to help the widow but Sophia, Harriett and Susanna were sent to the Female Orphanage at Parramatta on 21 June 1821. Mary Ann and John stayed with their pregnant mother.
Sarah Hall married on 17-61822 at St. Phillip's William Jones, a Welsh convict who arrived 7-9-1815 on the "Baring". The 1822 census shows Mrs Jones, Mary Ann, John and Martha Hall in Sydney with the others still at the orphanage. In 1825, the family were at Richmond where Mary Ann, aged 15, married Robert Tennant, a convict who had arrived 7-11-1818 on the "Morley".
Sarah asked for the release of her daughters from the orphanage but they were still there in the 1828 census. The Jones’ were then at Black Creek, Luskintyre and the Tennant’s at Richmond. In late 1828 Harriett and Susanna were apprenticed to John Staff at Parramatta. Sophia married John White at Black Creek on 1 April 1831. Harriett married John Sylvester on16-7-1832 at Richmond and Susannah married John Jackson on 23-2-1833 at Glendon. Sylvester had arrived as a convict 22-7-1816 on the “Atlas” and Jackson, also a convict, arrived 19-12-1830 on the “Burrell”. John married Sarah Farthing 25-5-1840 at Wollombi and Martha married c.1843 Peter Barr who arrived as a convict 16-12-1833 on the “Lloyds”.
Mary Ann Tennant had a de facto relationship with James Smith, a convict who arrived on the “Speke” 18-5-1821 and Harriett may have had a relationship with Robert Biggs.
John Hall married a second time on 18-7-1855 at Black Creek to Margaret McLeod who was born 1835 at Snizort on the Isle of Skye.
Children of William and Sarah Jones were:-
1.
Mary Ann - born 1823
2.
William - born 18-9-1825 Richmond, died 9-1-1906 Gunnedah, N.S.W. married 15-1-1846 Anna Hughes, de facto Mary Sweeney
3.
Sarah - born 6-9-1839 bapt. Parramatta, N.S.W.
William Jones died of strychnine poisoning 28-7-1867 at Minimbah Fordwich, Sarah died at Yellow Rock Gully 17-9-1872 and both are buried at Fordwich.
Individual Notes
Note for: Martha Hall, 19 JUL 1821 - ABT 1902
Index
Individual Note: Source - Pamela Warburton, Genes Reunited, Feb 2010:
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My eyes lit up when I saw the name "Martha Hall". Our Martha Hall married a Peter Barr he was a convict transported for life for arson. He got a conditional pardon. He and Martha had 4 children and they lived in the district of Maitland. One of their children Jane Barr married my son's Gt Grandfather James Toose.
According to a decendant of one of Janes brothers, Martha Hall's father was a Thomas Hall who was transported to NSW for horse stealing. I haven't tried checking the convict records etc for Thomas Hall's details but it would be a good exercise. A good start would be checking shipping records for c1815 and see what I can find.
I understand that dates can be a bit rubbery but if Thomas was born in 1794 and married Sarah Brookes in 1805 then he'd only be 11 at the time he got married. I think maybe his birth date should be 1784 and that it's a misread number. I will check out the website that you suggest.
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Individual Notes
Note for: John Hall, 17 SEP 1756 - 23 OCT 1833
Index
Individual Note: Source - LDS records:
IGI Individual Record:
John Hall
Male
Event(s):
Birth: 17 SEP 1756 Maresfield, Sussex, England
Christening:
Death: 23 OCT 1833
Burial:
Marriages:
Spouse: Hannah Diplock
Marriage: 01 FEB 1780
Messages:
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church
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IGI Individual Record:
John Hall
Male
Event(s):
Birth: 17 SEP 1756 Maresfield, Sussex, England
Christening:
Death: 23 OCT 1833
Burial:
Marriages:
Spouse: Hannah Diplock
Marriage: 01 FEB 1780
Messages:
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church.
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Family Group Record
Husband
John Hall
Birth: 17 SEP 1756 Maresfield, Sussex, England
Christening:
Marriage: 01 FEB 1780
Death: 23 OCT 1833
Burial:
Wife
Hannah Diplock
Birth: 1760 Mayfield, Sussex, England
Christening:
Marriage: 01 FEB 1780
Death: 25 MAR 1832
Burial:
Children
1. Unavailable
2. Unavailable
3. James Hall
Male
Birth: 1787 Buxted, Sussex, England
Christening:
Death: 24 JUL 1816
Burial:
4. Betty Hall
Female
Birth: 1789 Buxted, Sussex, England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:
5. Henry Hal
Male
Birth: 1790 Buxted, Sussex, England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:
6. Edward Hall
Male
Birth: 1792 Buxted, Sussex, England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:
7. Unavailable
8. Isaac Hall
Male
Birth: 1796 Buxted, Sussex, England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:
9. Mark Hall
Male
Birth: 1798 Buxted, Sussex, England
Christening:
Death: 25 JUL 1798
Burial:
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Source - John Hall, descendent, personal communication via Genes Reunited, Aug 2008:
Michael,
I will be very interested to access your family tree.Hanah Diplock (Hall) is my 7x great grandmother and I am trying to trace details of her husband's father to confirm links further back from them.
Tony Hall.
Individual Notes
Note for: Elizabeth Unknown, ABT 1841 - AFT 1901 Index
Individual Note:
Surname unknown, no marriage record found
Individual Notes
Note for: Francis Henry Edward Monk, ABT 1872 - Index
Individual Note:
1881 Census - Living with Parents
1881 Census - Living with Parents - Insurance Clerk
1901 Census - Not found (even on full-indexed GRO site)
Individual Notes
Note for: Eliza Archer Monk, ABT 1867 - Index
Individual Note:
1871, 1881 Cenus living with parents
1891 Census - not living with parents
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Source - Free BMD Marriages
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1889
Britten Edward William Lambeth 1d653
Hillman Olive Lambeth 1d653
MONK Eliza Archer Lambeth 1d653
Stacey Harry Lambeth 1d653
Probably married Edward William Britten - Eliza A Britten found in 1901 Census (born Herne Hill though)
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Source - 1901 England Census
NameAge in 1901BirthplaceRelationshipCivil ParishCounty/Island
Edward W Britten36 Camberwell, Surrey, EnglandHead Ashtead Surrey
Eliza A Britten34 Herne Hill, Surrey, EnglandWife Ashtead Surrey Edward G Britten9 Brixton, London, EnglandSon Ashtead Surrey
Caroline Baker22 Horsham, Sussex, EnglandServant Ashtead Surrey Ellen M Clatworthy16 Windsor, Berkshire, EnglandServant Ashtead Surrey
Individual Notes
Note for: Jane Elizabeth Fairless, ABT 1867 - AFT MAR 1901 Index
Individual Note:
Source - 1871, 1881 England Census
Living with parents
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Source - 1891 England Census:
Household of Thomas Hedley, Gardener
Fairless, Janeabt 1867Brunton, Northumberland, EnglandVisitor Whalton NorthumberlandSingleNo occupation
Visiting: Whalton, Northumberland, UK
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Source - FreeBMD Marriages:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1899
Fairless Jane Castle W. 10b563
Forsyth Thomas Castle W. 10b563
Henderson Flora Castle W. 10b563
Robson Richard Castle W. 10b563
No 1901 Census matches found
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Source - 1901 England Census:
NameEstimated Birth YearBirthplaceRelationshipCivil ParishCounty/Island
Jane Elizth Fairlessabt 1866 Brunton, Northumberland, EnglandPatient Newminster NorthumberlandSingleOccupation "Not Known"Lunatic
Living: Northumberland County Lunatic Asylum, Morpeth, Northumberland, UK
Individual Notes
Note for: John Fairless, ABT 1859 - AFT MAR 1901 Index
Occupation:
Date: 1901
Place: Quarryman
Residence:
Date: 1901
Place: High Street, Bedlington, Northumberland, UK
Individual Note:
Original Source - 1861, 1871, 1881, 1891 England Census
Living with parents
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Source - 1901 England Census:
NameEstimated Birth YearBirthplaceRelationshipCivil ParishCounty/Island
John Fairlessabt 1859 Kenton, Northumberland, EnglandBoarder Bedlington NorthumberlandQuarryman StoneSingle
Mary Stephensonabt 1865 Bedlington, Northumberland, EnglandHead Bedlington NorthumberlandBaker Breadmaker
John M Stephensonabt 1889 Drigg, Cumberland, EnglandSon Bedlington Northumberland
Meggie Swentonabt 1885 Gateshead, Durham, EnglandServant Bedlington Northumberland
Living: High Street, Bedlington, Northumberland, UK