Individual Notes
Note for: Janet Cowper, ABT 1835 - AFT MAR 1881
Index
Individual Note: Source - IGI Individual Record
Most likely match for her family name (Kelton = Castle Douglas):
JOHN CROSBIE
Male
Marriages:
Spouse: JANET COWPER
Marriage: 26 APR 1861 Kelton, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
Individual Notes
Note for: Elizabeth Crosbie, ABT 1862 - AFT MAR 1871
Index
Individual Note: Original Source - 1871 England Census:
Living with parents
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Source - 1881 England Census:
Same person? Not born Scotland.
Elizabeth J. Crosbie abt 1861 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Servant North Meols Lancashire
Living in the household of Henry Carson Rhean
Nope, this is her in 1871:
Elizabeth J Crosbie abt 1861 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Liverpool Lancashire
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Source - 1891 England Census:
Same person? Not born Scotland.
Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship to head-of-house Civil parish County
Elizabeth J Crosbie abt 1861 Liverpool Servant West Derby Lancashire
Sole General Servant in the household of Eliza Zwinger, widow and her dau. Gertrude.
Living: 32 Tyrwald Hill, West Derby
Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island View Image
Elizabeth I Crosbie abt 1861 Bootle, Lancashire, England Servant Great Crosby Lancashire
Living in the household of Thomas A Kirkwood born Scotland
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Source - FreeBMD Marriages
First marriage at c 41 years old? Unlikely. Perhaps a niece.
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1903
Cannon Thomas Henry Toxteth Park 8b301
Crosbie Elizabeth Toxteth Park 8b301
Jewell Philip George Toxteth Park 8b301
Sharples Amy Maud F Toxteth Park 8b301
Individual Notes
Note for: Isabella Crosbie, ABT 1870 - AFT MAR 1881
Index
Individual Note: Original Source - 1871, 1881 England Census:
Living with parents
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Source - 1891 England Census:
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Source - 1901 England Census:
Not found as Isabella Crosbie
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Source - Personal communication via Genes Reunited from Stéphanie Delhaye / Delhaye
Hello Michael, We have an Isabella Crosbie born 1890 Liverpool who married Alfred Greason born 1887, in 1909 Liverpool. Any connection ? Regards, Stéphanie.
Hello Michael,
All we can tell you about Isabella Crosbie is that she married Alfred Greason in 1909 Liverpool.
Alfred Greason was the son of Green Greason & Sarah Ann Toft.
They had at least a daughter, Annie Greason (possibly a Lilly as well) who married Alfred Brownrigg. They had a son, Alfred, born1939.
Regards, Stéphanie.
+++++++++++++++++++
The above Isabella *could* be this ... which is this Isabella's brother William's daughter:
Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship to head-of-house Civil parish County
William Crosbie abt 1868 Upton, Cheshire, England Head Toxteth Park Lancashire Blacksmith Striker
May E J Crosbie abt 1868 Toxteth Park, Lancashire, England Wife Toxteth Park Lancashire
Isabella Crosbie abt 1890 Toxteth Park, Lancashire, England Daughter Toxteth Park Lancashire
Sarah A Crosbie abt 1889 Toxteth Park, Lancashire, England Daughter Toxteth Park Lancashire
Living: 20 Buttermere Street, Toxteth Park
Individual Notes
Note for: Robert Crosbie, ABT 1864 -
Index
Individual Note: Source - 1871, 1881 England Census
Living with parents
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Source - 1891 England Census
No positive match:
NameEstimated Birth YearBirthplaceRelationship to head-of-houseCivil parishCounty
Crosbie, Robertabt 1863Liverpool, LancashireBoarder Bishop Wearmouth Durham
Crosbie, Robertabt 1866ScotlandBoarder St George Hanover Square London
Individual Notes
Note for: William Crosbie, ABT 1866 - AFT MAR 1891
Index
Occupation: Date: 1881
Place: Labourer In Ironworks
Occupation: Date: 1891
Place: Blacksmith Striker
Residence: Date: 1891
Place: 20 Buttermere Street, Toxteth Park, Lancashire, UK
Residence: Date: 1881
Place: 12 Buttermere Street, Toxteth Park, Lancashire, UK
Individual Note: Original Source - James Black b1941, descendent, via Genes Reunited
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Source - 1871 England Census:
See parents
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Source - 1881 England Census:
Name RelationMarital StatusGenderAgeBirthplaceOccupationDisability
John CROSBIE Head M Male 46 Dumfries, Scotland Labourer
Janet CROSBIE Wife M Female 46 Castle Douglas, Scotland
Robert CROSBIE Son U Male 18 Dumfries, Scotland Labourer
William CROSBIE Son Male 16 Upton, Cheshire, England Labourer In Ironworks
Isabella CROSBIE Daur Female 10 Liverpool Scholar
Janet CROSBIE Daur Female 5 Liverpool
Source Information:
Dwelling 12 Buttermere Street
Census PlaceToxteth Park, Lancashire, England
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Source - FreeBMD Marrriages
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1888
CROSBIE William Liverpool 8b173
GRIFFITHS Elizabeth Liverpool 8b173
HACKING George Liverpool 8b173
SHONE Mary Ellen J Liverpool 8b173
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Source - 1891 England Census:
Slightly different age, but birth town, address and profession seems to make things conclusive.
Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship to head-of-house Civil parish County
William Crosbie abt 1868 Upton, Cheshire, England Head Toxteth Park Lancashire Blacksmith Striker
May. [sic] E.J .Crosbie abt 1868 Toxteth Park, Lancashire, England Wife Toxteth Park Lancashire
Isabella Crosbie abt 1890 Toxteth Park, Lancashire, England Daughter Toxteth Park Lancashire
Sarah A Crosbie abt 1889 Toxteth Park, Lancashire, England Daughter Toxteth Park Lancashire
Living: 20 Buttermere Street, Toxteth Park
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Source - FreeBMD Deaths
Deaths Dec 1891
Crosbie William 0 Toxteth Park 8b199
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Source - 1901 England Census:
Mistranscribed as Rosbie
Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island
Daniel Rosbie abt 1895 Toxteth Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Toxteth Park Lancashire
Eleanor Rosbie abt 1900 Toxteth Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Toxteth Park Lancashire
Isabella Rosbie abt 1890 Toxteth Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Toxteth Park Lancashire
James Rosbie abt 1897 Toxteth Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Toxteth Park Lancashire
John Rosbie abt 1893 Toxteth Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Toxteth Park Lancashire
Joseph Rosbie abt 1899 Toxteth Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Toxteth Park Lancashire
Mary E Rosbie abt 1867 Toxteth Liverpool, Lancashire, England Wife Toxteth Park Lancashire
William Rosbie abt 1865 Upton, Cheshire, England Head Toxteth Park LancashireGeneral Labourer
Living: 20 Buttermere Street, Toxteth Park
Individual Notes
Note for: Mary Ellen J. Shone, ABT 1865 - AFT MAR 1891
Index
Individual Note: Source - 1881 England Census
Name RelationMarital StatusGenderAgeBirthplaceOccupationDisability
Catherine SHONE Head M Female 41 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
John F. SHONE Son U Male 20 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Commercial Clerk
Mary E. SHONE Daur U Female 18 Liverpool, Lancashire, England None
James A. SHONE Son Male 16 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Apprentice Corn Miller
Robert H. SHONE Son Male 14 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Scholar
Ellen MINGINS Serv U Female 22 Scotland Gen Dom Serv
Source Information:
Dwelling 24 Peel St
Census PlaceToxteth Park, Lancashire, England
OR Match?? Born Waverton, not Toxteth Park
Name RelationMarital StatusGenderAgeBirthplaceOccupationDisability
Joseph SPRUCE Head M Male 46 Ringsley, Lancashire, England Carter
Mary SPRUCE Wife M Female 48 Lpool, Lancashire, England
John SPRUCE Son Male 15 Lpool, Lancashire, England Apprentice Bag Maker
Elizabeth SPRUCE Daur Female 9 Lpool, Lancashire, England Scholar
Thomas BARLOW Son U Male 24 Lpool, Lancashire, England Carter
Mary SHONE Visitor U Female 16 Waverton, Lancashire, England Gen Servant
Dwelling 36 Epsom St
Census PlaceLiverpool, Lancashire, England
Individual Notes
Note for: Isabella Crosbie, ABT 1890 - AFT MAR 1901
Index
Individual Note: Original Source - James Black b1941, descendent, via Genes Reunited
[now corroborated with census info]
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Source - Personal communication from Stéphanie Delhaye / Delhaye via Genes Reunited, May 2006
Hello Michael, We have an Isabella Crosbie born 1890 Liverpool who married Alfred Greason born 1887, in 1909 Liverpool. Any connection ? Regards, Stéphanie.
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Source - FreeBMD
Births Mar 1890
Crosbie Isabella Toxteth Park 8b14[38]
Match?:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1909
CROSBIE Isabella Liverpool 8b30
GEOGREGAN Martha Liverpool 8b30
GREASON Alfred Liverpool 8b30
WORTHINGTON Gilbert Liverpool 8b30
Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Sep 1911
GREASON Lilian Crosbie Toxteth P. 8b297
Individual Notes
Note for: Eleanor Crosbie, ABT 1900 - AFT MAR 1901
Index
Individual Note: Original Source - Census:
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Source - Personal Communication from Paul Berry, Genes Reunited, Feb 2008:
Hi,
have you looked at my tree recently.
Found 3 more generations thanks to
Geoff Berry.
All the best.
Paul
---> Tree shows my data plus husband and offspring of Eleanor Crosbie
Individual Notes
Note for: Ambrose Alexander Black, ABT DEC 1900 -
Index
Individual Note: Original Source - Personal Communication from James Black descendent (Genes Reunited, May 2005)
Ambrose Black married Janet Crosbie, a Tweedie descendent.
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Source - 1901 Isle Of Man Census
NameEstimated Birth YearBirthplaceRelationshipCivil ParishCounty/Island
Thomas Clague1830 Onchan, Isle of Man, Isle of ManHead Conchan Isle of Man
Ellinor Clague1833 Lonan, Isle of Man, Isle of ManWife Conchan Isle of Man
Adora Clague1861 Onchan, Isle of Man, Isle of ManDaughter Conchan Isle of Man
Louis Clague1864 Onchan, Isle of Man, Isle of ManSon Conchan Isle of Man
Edith E Black1867 Onchan, Isle of Man, Isle of ManVisitor Conchan Isle of Man
Herbert A Black1862 Braddan, Isle of Man, Isle of ManVisitor Conchan Isle of Man
Ambrose A Black1900 Onchan, Isle of Man, Isle of ManGrandson Conchan Isle of Man
James F Black1897 EnglandGrandson Conchan Isle of Man
Frederick Clague1887 Onchan, Isle of Man, Isle of ManGrandson Conchan Isle of Man
Minnie Harrison1899 Ramsey, Isle of Man, Isle of ManGranddaughter Conchan Isle of Man
Jane Quirk1844 Lonan, Isle of Man, Isle of ManVisitor Conchan Isle of Man
Individual Notes
Note for: Robert Black, 1862 -
Index
Individual Note: Original Source - Personal Communication from James Black (great?) grandson descendent (Genes Reunited, May 2005)
Son Ambrose Black married Janet Crosbie, a Tweedie descendent.
Individual Notes
Note for: Thomas Hughes Cummings, 1867 - AFT MAR 1901
Index
Occupation: Date: 1891
Place: Plater Shipyard
Occupation: Date: 1901
Place: Iron Shipwright
Residence: Date: 1891
Place: 39, [Ai? Cr?]mond Street, Stranton, Co. Durham, UK
Residence: Date: 1901
Place: 14 Peckett St, West Hartlepool, Co. Durham, UK
Individual Note: Thomas Hughes Cummings, 1867 - ?, is the son of James Cummings. He and sister Catherine are the only member of this Cummings family that can be traced in England after the 1881 Census. In 1891 he was still living in Stranton, Co. Durham - the last known residence of his father - and like other Cummings was a Shipyard Plater. His wife then was Mary and the best match is a marriage with a Mary Smith in the first quarter of 1889 in the Hartlepool area.
In 1901 he was an Iron Shipwright and living with Mary and three children in West Hartlepool.
My current guess is that the entire rest of the family emigrated. If they went somewhere with a thriving ship building or repair industry, that might limit the possible destinations to the northern US/Canadian seaboard or Great Lakes.
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Source - FreeBMD
Births Mar 1867
CUMMINGS Thomas Hughes S. Shields 10a649
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Original Source - 1871, 1881 England Census:
Living with parents
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Source - FreeBMD
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1889
Barker Jane Hartlepool 10a159
Cummings Thomas Hughes Hartlepool 10a159
Robinson Joseph Hartlepool 10a159
Smith Mary Hartlepool 10a159<--- 1891 Census match
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Source - 1891 England Census
Cummings, Thomas Aabt 1867Jarrow, DurhamHead Stranton DurhamPlater Shipyard
Cummings, Maryabt 1868West Hartlepool, DurhamWife Stranton Durham
Living: 39, [Ai? Cr?]mond Street, Stranton, Co. Durham, UK
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Source - 1901 England Census:
Thomas Hy Cummingabt 1867 Jarrow, Durham, EnglandHead West Hartlepool Durham Iron Shipwright
Mary Cummingabt 1868 West HartlepoolWife West Hartlepool Durham
Edith Cummingabt 1900 West HartlepoolDaughter West Hartlepool Durham
Mary Beat Cummingabt 1892 West HartlepoolDaughter West Hartlepool Durham
Thomas Matt. Cummingabt 1899 West HartlepoolSon West Hartlepool Durham
Living: 14 Peckett St, West Hartlepool, Co. Durham, UK