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Individual Notes

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Note for:   Tipping ,    -          Index

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Individual Note:
     Source - Lucy Norman, email, 19 Mar 2003
"Pat [Lucy Norman's mother and 2nd wife of Frank] can't remember the names of Frank's TWO brothers, but his sister was Lilly Norman, who went on to marry a Mr Tipping and had 2 sons and a daughter. "

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Individual Notes

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Note for:   Charles Richard Norman,   ABT 1837 - 23 JAN 1892         Index

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Occupation:   
     Date:   1861
     Place:   Carpenter's son

Occupation:   
     Date:   1871
     Place:   Carpenter

Occupation:   
     Date:   1881
     Place:   Carpenter

Residence:   
     Date:   1861
     Place:   London Road, East Grinstead, Sussex, UK

Residence:   
     Date:   1851
     Place:   London Road, East Grinstead, Sussex, UK

Residence:   
     Date:   1871
     Place:   Glenvue? Road, East Grinstead, Sussex, UK

Residence:   
     Date:   1881
     Place:   London Road, East Grinstead, Sussex, UK

Residence:   
     Date:   1891
     Place:   32 London Road, East Grinstead, Sussex, UK

Individual Note:
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Source - Pat Norman nee Cummings, widow of Frank Norman, Dec 2005

Lucy's great grandfather (= Charles Richard Norman, b c1837) owned quite a lot of land around the East Grinstead area. Unfortunately her grandfather (= Charles Richard Norman b c1866) drank most of the family wealth away.
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Source - IGI Individual Record

CHARLES NORMAN
    Male
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 25 JUN 1837 East Grinstead, Sussex, England
Parents:
    Father: RICHARD NORMAN
    Mother: MARY
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Source - IGI Individual Record

Wonder who submitted this? A relative perhaps. They have a very definite death date that matches the GRO Civil Index year

Charles Norman
    Male
Event(s):
Birth: 1838 Of, East Grinstead, Sussex, England
Christening:
Death: 23 JAN 1892
Burial:
Messages:
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.
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Source - 1851 England Census

NameEstimated Birth YearBirthplaceRelationshipCivil ParishCounty/Island

Richard Normanabt 1806 Hartfield, Sussex, EnglandHead East Grinstead SussexCarpenter & Joiner employing one man & one app
Mary Normanabt 1808 East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandWife East Grinstead Sussex

Charles Normanabt 1838 East GrinsteadSon East Grinstead Sussex
Eliza Normanabt 1839 East GrinsteadDaughter East Grinstead Sussex
George Normanabt 1842 East GrinsteadSon East Grinstead Sussex

Living: London Road, East Grinstead, Sussex, UK
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Source - 1861 England Census

NameEstimated Birth YearBirthplaceRelationshipCivil ParishCounty/Island

Richard Normanabt 1806 Hartfield, Sussex, EnglandHead East Grinstead SussexMaster Carpenter employing 9 men and 1 boy
Mary Normanabt 1809 East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandWife East Grinstead Sussex

Charles Normanabt 1838 East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandSon East Grinstead Sussex Carpenter's son
Eliza Normanabt 1840 East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandDaughter East Grinstead Sussex
George Normanabt 1842 East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandSon East Grinstead Sussex

Living: London Road, East Grinstead, Sussex, UK
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Source - 1871 England Census

Note: Surname incorrectly transcribed as "Naman" on www.ancestry.co.uk

NameAge in 1871BirthplaceRelationshipCivil ParishCounty/IslandView Image

Charles Naman34 East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandHead East Grinstead SussexCarpenter
Jessie Naman31 London, EnglandWife East Grinstead Sussex
Naman1 day East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandSon East Grinstead Sussex--> 3 April 1871, i.e. born 2 April 1871
Arthur W Naman4 East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandSon East Grinstead Sussex

Charles R Naman5 East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandSon East Grinstead Sussex
Frederick W Naman2 East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandSon East Grinstead Sussex

Lucy Watson24 Lingfield, Surrey, EnglandServant East Grinstead SussexNurse

Living: Glenvue? Road, East Grinstead
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Source - 1881 England Census

Name ,Relation,Marital Status,Gender,Age,Birthplace,Occupation,Disability,
Charles NORMAN , Head , W , Male , 43 , East Grinstead, Sussex, England , Carpenter , ,
--> Charles NORMAN , Son , U , Male , 15 , East Grinstead, Sussex, England , Carpenter , ,
Arthur NORMAN , Son , , Male , 13 , East Grinstead, Sussex, England , Scholar , ,
Frederick NORMAN , Son , , Male , 12 , East Grinstead, Sussex, England , Scholar , ,
Edgar NORMAN , Son , , Male , 10 , East Grinstead, Sussex, England , Scholar , ,
Ada NORMAN , Daur , , Female , 8 , East Grinstead, Sussex, England , Scholar , ,
Alice NORMAN , Daur , , Female , 6 , East Grinstead, Sussex, England , Scholar , ,
Florence NORMAN , Daur , , Female , 4 , East Grinstead, Sussex, England , , ,
Harriett NICHOLS , Serv , U , Female , 20 , West Horshley, Sussex, England , Housekeeper (Dom) ,,,

Living: London Road, East Grinstead, Sussex, England

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Source - IGI Individual Record

CHARLES NORMAN
    Male
Parents:
    Father: RICHARD NORMAN
Marriages:
    Spouse: HARRIETT NICKOLS
    Marriage: 17 FEB 1885 Saint Olave, Southwark, Surrey, England

Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record
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Source - 1891 England Census

Norman, Charles56East Grinstead, SussexHead East Grinstead Sussex
Norman, Harriet30East Grinstead, SussexWife East Grinstead Sussex

[These must be children by first wife Jessie, d.1878:]

Norman, Edgar D20East Grinstead, SussexSon East Grinstead Sussex
Norman, Arthur Wm23East Grinstead, SussexSon East Grinstead Sussex
Norman, Ada E18East Grinstead, SussexDaughter East Grinstead Sussex
Norman, Alice M15East Grinstead, SussexDaughter East Grinstead Sussex
Norman, Florence M14East Grinstead, SussexDaughter East Grinstead Sussex

[These must be children by second wife Harriet:]
Norman, Minnie5East Grinstead, SussexDaughter East Grinstead Sussex
Norman, George3East Grinstead, SussexSon East Grinstead Sussex
Norman, Edith1East Grinstead, SussexDaughter East Grinstead Sussex

Living: 32 London Road, East Grinstead, Sussex, UK
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Source - FreeBMD Deaths

Deaths Mar 1892
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Norman Charles 54 E. Grinstead 2b136

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Source: 1901 England Census

NameAge in 1901BirthplaceRelationshipCivil ParishCounty/Island

Arthur Wm Norman33 East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandHead East Grinstead SussexUndertakerAt Home
Edgar Donald Norman29 East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandBrother East Grinstead SussexPainter
Alice Mary Norman25 East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandSister East Grinstead SussexMilliner
Florence Mabel Norman23 East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandSister East Grinstead SussexLiving on own money

Harriett Norman39 East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandStepmother East Grinstead SussexLiving on own money

Minnie Norman15 East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandHalf Sister East Grinstead Sussex
George Norman13 East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandHalf Brother East Grinstead Sussex
Edith Norman10 East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandHalf Sister East Grinstead Sussex
Mabel Norman8 East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandHalf Sister East Grinstead Sussex <-- Probably dau. of Charles Norman (deceased) and Harriet

All single except Harriet (widow)

Living: London Road, East Grinstead (next to the Carriage Factory and 3 along from "The Warwick(?) Inn")

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Individual Notes

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Note for:   Jessie Nicoll,   ABT 1840 - 1878         Index

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Individual Note:
     Jessie, 31, born London, is the wife of Charles Norman, b c1837-8 in the 1871 Census. She died before the 1881 Census as Charles is shown as a widow. Her family name is *probably* Nicoll, a search on LDS only shows two marriages ever between a Charles Norman and a Jessie, and one of them is the right date range for first surviving child and in London
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Source - LDS IGI Individual Record

Looking for a birth. Not found. All Jessie Nicol[l] at that time are born in Scotland (around 4). No Jessica Nicol[l] found.
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Source - 1851 England Census:

Could this be her?

Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island View Image

Donald Nichol abt 1808 Scotland Head Ealing MiddlesexWidowerJourneyman Tailor
Elizabeth Mc Kenzie abt 1771 Scotland Aunt Ealing MiddlesexUnmarriedFormerly Serv
     
Donald Nichol abt 1838 London, Middlesex, England Son Ealing Middlesex
Elizabeth Nichol abt 1837 London, Middlesex, England Daughter Ealing Middlesex
Jessie Nichol abt 1840 London, Middlesex, England Daughter Ealing Middlesex

Living: Boston Road, Ealing, London, Middlesex, UK
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Source - 1861 England Census:

No family match to 1851 entry found at all
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Source - LDS IGI Individual Record

CHARLES NORMAN
    Male
Marriages:
    Spouse: JESSIE NICOLL
    Marriage: 21 AUG 1863 Saint Olave, Southwark, Surrey, England
Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record
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Source - FreeBMD

Deaths Jun 1878
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
NORMAN Jessie 37 E. Grinstead 2b92

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Individual Notes

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Note for:   Frederick Russell Norman,   ABT 1869 -          Index

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Individual Note:
     
Source: 1891 England Census

Norman, Charles K25East Grinstead, SussexHead East Grinstead Sussex
Norman, Lucy E25Great Bookham, SurreyWife East Grinstead Sussex


Norman, Frederick R23East Grinstead, SussexHead East Grinstead Sussex
Norman, Ellen23London, MiddlesexWife East Grinstead Sussex
The Nichalls again

Nichalls , Albert19East Grinstead, SussexSon East Grinstead Sussex
Nichalls , George55West Hoathly, SussexHead East Grinstead Sussex
Nichalls , Mary A63Horsted Keynes, SussexWife East Grinstead Sussex

Living: (in separate units of) Old Mil Cottages, East Grinstead, probably near or off London Road.
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Source - 1901 Census

NameAge in 1901BirthplaceRelationshipCivil ParishCounty/IslandView Image
Ellen Norman32 Berkley Square, London, EnglandWife East Grinstead Sussex
Frederick Russell Norman32 East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandHead East Grinstead SussexPlumberWorker
Frederick William Norman7 East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandSon East Grinstead Sussex
Herbert Sidney Norman2 East Grinstead, Sussex, EnglandSon East Grinstead Sussex

Living: 36A Queens Road, East Grinstead (2 doors from "Rifle Vols Armoury")

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Individual Notes

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Note for:   Ann Collinson,   ABT NOV 1789 - ABT MAR 1805         Index

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Baptism:   
     Date:   15 NOV 1789

Burial:   
     Date:   18 MAR 1805

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Individual Notes

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Note for:   Joseph Collinson,   ABT MAR 1791 - 1853         Index

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Baptism:   
     Date:   6 MAR 1791

Occupation:   
     Date:   1851
     Place:   Farmer of 78 Acres

Occupation:   
     Date:   1841
     Place:   Publican

Residence:   
     Date:   1851
     Place:   New Spittle, Bowes, Yorkshire, UK

Residence:   
     Date:   1841
     Place:   New Spittle, Bowes, Yorkshire, UK

Burial:   
     Date:   5 MAR 1853

Individual Note:
     Original Source - Joe Collinson or Desmond Collinson?

Birth, death marriage dates (but not places) and wife's name
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Source - 1841 England Census:

Name Estimated birth year Birthplace Civil parish County/Island
   
Joseph Collinson abt 1791 Yorkshire, England Bowes Yorkshire Publican
Elizabeth Collinson abt 1791 Yorkshire, England Bowes Yorkshire
Mary Collinson abt 1826 Yorkshire, England Bowes Yorkshire <-- Assumed to be a daughter
Sarah Collinson abt 1826 Yorkshire, England Bowes Yorkshire
Elizabeth Collinson abt 1830 Yorkshire, England Bowes Yorkshire
John Baylis abt 1830 Yorkshire, England Bowes Yorkshire M.S. [Male Servant?]

Living: New Spittle, Bowes, Yorkshire, UK
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Source - 1851 England Census:

NameEstimated Birth YearBirthplaceRelationshipCivil ParishCounty/Island

Joseph Collinsonabt 1791 Rombald Kirk, Yorkshire, EnglandHead Bowes YorkshireFarmer of 78 Acres 1 labourer
Elizabeth Collinsonabt 1791 Rombald Kirk, Yorkshire, EnglandWife Bowes Yorkshire
Sarah Collinsonabt 1826 Rombald Kirk, Yorkshire, EnglandDaughter Bowes Yorkshire"At home"
Elizabeth Collinsonabt 1831 Rombald Kirk, Yorkshire, EnglandDaughter Bowes Yorkshire "At home"

Thomas Nelsonabt 1815 Edenall, Cumberland, EnglandServant Bowes YorkshireGeneral Serv.

Living: New Spittle, Bowes, Yorkshire, UK
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Source - FreeBMD Deaths:

Probable match if original source date is correct. Bowes reports in the Teesdale area.

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
   
Deaths Mar 1853
Collinson Joseph Teesdale 10a171

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Individual Notes

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Note for:   Mary Collinson,   ABT MAY 1793 - BEF 1805         Index

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Baptism:   
     Date:   26 MAY 1793

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